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    Identifying pages when creating conditions / logic / rules

    Asked by cheekyface on August 24, 2012 at 01:17 AM

    Hi.

    I just wanted to suggest that the forms need a better way to identify the pages when creating rules.

    I'm in the process of setting conditions and there are a few skip to page rules in there and I notice how tricky it is to get the skip to go the right page without having to have a few goes at it.

    There no indication as to which page is "page 7" unless I count them whilst scrolling through which is OK if you have a brief form.

    Mine spans over many pages and for anyone else who creates conditional rules it'll serve well to have some kind of automatic tag or page id appear in the editor.  Something that is not visible in the actual live form but that might even be an option.

    For now I'm left with having to title the page breaks with an ID that will differentiate from the previous just so I don't get confused.

    Alternatively it may be even better to be able to insert logic directly from the field.  When clicking on the settings options for each field why not just include the option to "insert logic for this field". 

    That wouldn't necessarily solve the problem with identifying pages by number but it's probably also worth consdiering so there are just a couple of feature requests for you.

     

    Thanks.

    Danny.

    page numbers conditions logic Feature Request
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    Answered by liyam on August 24, 2012 at 02:14 AM

    Thank you for your suggestion, Danny.  This sure indeed is a good feature if it can be implemented.

    I have forwarded your suggestion to the development team.  Unfortunately, since they are pretty busy working on other developments and updates that are already in the pipeline, I cannot guarantee that this can be done anytime soon.  But rest assured, as soon as this is considered and implemented, we'll sure to let you know.

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    Answered by mvv27 on March 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    what is the current status of this issue ??

    thanks

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    Answered by cheekyface on May 22, 2013 at 09:41 AM

    Just following up also to see if we have any progress on this or if it's even in the plans for anytime soon?

    I'm just getting into setting up the longest form in the world (:)) and I'm dreading how long it will take me to count the pages that need to be skipped and then re-count to make sure I have it correct and then test it by going through the entire form to get to the page that I need to see if it will skip correctly, and then if I've mis-counted I'll have to go through all that again and again for each skip page condition I create.

    Hope you can do something like (at the very least) put markers on page breaks so that we can see them hence count them in the list when selecting the items to apply conditions to.  It would also make selection of fields quicker to have them marked in any way.

     

    I know you guys are working hard but I really want to see this so I'm just saying... I hope you can do it.

    Any news would be appreciated.

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    Answered by jonathan on May 22, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    @cheekyface

    Hi, I am sorry to inform you that we do not have any update on this feature yet.

    There is a feature ticket for it though. Just not too sure when or if it will be consider since it is not in too high priority at this time.

    I also agree on your idea on the markers on pages. BUT I think you can do this already by putting a header field or using the free text(html) field to put some text/marker before or after the page break field.

    So, when you are in the condition wizard, you will be able to identify the page mark because of the texts/marker that is placed preceeding or after a page break.

    We will notify you also via email or on this thread, as soon as there is an update on this.

    Thanks.

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    Answered by cheekyface on May 22, 2013 at 08:38 PM

    Will mark pages manually then for now.  Maybe there's something possible with using hidden fields so that the form doesn't get messy.  
    Thnaks for your reply.

    Cheers,

    Danny. 

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    Answered by jonathan on May 22, 2013 at 08:55 PM

    Hi Danny,

    I agree, and you are more right on that.

    Using hidden box field as dummy page marker field should work beter. And it will not show on the live form. See image below for test application

     

    Thanks.

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    Answered by cheekyface on May 22, 2013 at 09:06 PM

    Yep it worked for me too.  Only I wouldn't number them since whenever I decide to split an area of the form with another page I have to make sure to adjust them and usually I'd forget to correctly number the pages.

    I just did this to name them:
    ---------Page break

    OR you can title it of course but i suppose numbers OR titles is the same anyhow. 

    I know its probably a redicuous question but I like to push ...would it be simpler for the tech's to create an option to have the hidden fields automatically numbered so that every time a hidden field is added it carries a digit counting up from previous hidden fields added?  Or possibly even a seperate field specifically for marking a spot on the form?

    ..Just a thought so I'm not holding my breath for this.

    I'll make do with the hidden fields - they are fine.  I just like the idea that it can be taken care of without my having to keep track of it.

    Thanks again.