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    Duplicating the form with conditions right below the original

    Asked by dudiack on April 10, 2014 at 02:08 PM

    Plese help me understand. If I have an entire form full of conditions and then at the bottom of the form I want to give them an option to click yes and then have the entire form duplicated right below so they can choose to order another item from the list. Thanks so much.

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    Answered by EliezerN on April 10, 2014 at 02:59 PM

    Hi,

    If you wish to duplicate all the current form fields and place them just below of the current group of fields, then you can use the Manage Multiple Fields function to duplicate all the fields at once, here is the guide: How to manage multiple fields

    However, please note that if there are fields that are tied to conditions, the conditions will not be duplicated along with the fields. You have to duplicate them using the Duplicate Conditions function.

    But first make sure to add a checkbox after the first group of fields of your form, label it as "Add one more item" or something like that:

    Then, add a form collapse just below of the first group of fields and set its Status to Open and its Visibility to Hidden

    Then while duplicating the fields choose to place them after that form collapse. Then you can proceed to setup the condition "If Add one more item Is Filled, then Show SECOND PART (Form Collapse)". The condition must be like this:

    Here is an example form: http://form.jotform.co/form/40996126162861

    Such scenario is possible by following this workaround applying conditional logics: How to Hide or Show Multiple Fields at Once Based On a Single Conditional Entry

    Thanks

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    Answered by dudiack on April 10, 2014 at 03:53 PM

    I thank you! this was the most helpful response yet. The thing is I'm still having an impossible time getting the conditions duplicated to the 2nd set of fields that I added after the form collapse.

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    Answered by EliezerN on April 10, 2014 at 04:43 PM

    Thanks for the additional information.

    Are you saying that when you duplicate the conditions using the Duplicate Conditions function they are not applied to the new set of fields? 

    If that is the case, please keep in mind that the duplicated conditions will still apply for the first set of fields. They will not be automatically changed/updated with the second set of fields. You need to manually change them to be applied to the new fields.

    Can you please confirm if this is the form you are talking about? https://www.jotform.com/40846183814963

    It does no seem to have two set of similar fields. Please shre with us the URL of the form so that we can better understand how its settings are and that way give our suggestions.

    We will wait for your response.

    Thanks

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    Answered by dudiack on April 11, 2014 at 09:39 AM

    Hi. Here is the link  http://form.jotformpro.com/form/40996045295969   I'm wondering, what is the point of the  duplicating conditions feature if not that they apply to the new set of fields?

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    Answered by EliezerN on April 11, 2014 at 01:00 PM

    Thanks for providing the URL of the correct form.

    I understand what you mean. However, please note that the purpose of the Duplicate Conditions function is not to apply the duplicated conditions to other fields automatically. It is best used when you want to create multiple conditions with the same rule, so you do not need to create conditions from scratch. Just duplicate the previous condition and edit just part of it, like different actions or applying it to different fields.

    If you would like that such capability to be part of the Duplicate conditions function, you may open a new thread and make the request there, and we will be more than glad to forward your request to our Development team.

    So, I cloned your form and applied the duplicated conditions to the new fields. Here is my cloned and fixed form: http://form.jotformpro.com/form/41004594833957

    Here is how to clone it: How to clone an existing form from a URL

    Kindly let us know once you have cloned it and if that worked for you.

    I hope this is what you are trying to achieve. Please check it carefully and if you need further assistance with this inquiry, do not hesitate to contact us.

    Thanks

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    Answered by dudiack on April 13, 2014 at 12:56 PM

    Wow Eliezer! Excellent! You're the best! This is exactly what I wanted! How did you do it?? I want to duplicate it another few times to give customers the ability to sell up to 5 programs. How did you do that so I can do it for my form plus duplicate it another few times?

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    JotForm Support

    Answered by jonathan on April 13, 2014 at 01:44 PM

    @dudiack

    Hi,

    We are glad to know of your satisfaction on the solution provided by our colleague EliezerN.

    Now, as he had mentioned already, you can just clone his sample form so that you can make use and learn how it works more.

    Try this steps:

    1. Use this URL of the form http://form.jotformpro.com/form/41004594833957  for step#2

    2. Use this guide -How-to-clone-an-existing-form-from-a-URL to clone the form in step #1

    Inform us if you still need assistance.

    Thanks.!

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    Answered by dudiack on April 24, 2014 at 02:56 PM

    I need to duplicate that 2 more times.

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    Answered by TitusN on April 24, 2014 at 04:27 PM

    I presume by "duplicate" you mean:

    1. Create a new set of fields (two times)

    2. Apply duplicated conditions to these two new sets of fields - right?

    Eliezers response is very comprehensive - please have a second look on from the support forum.

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    While duplicating fields needed for each set of fields  (for additional programs) is easy using the multiple fields manager, you may have to define the conditional rules for each field manually - there is currently no way to automate this - even duplicating conditions needs you to edit the fields on which the conditional logic rules and actions will be applied.

    Each section (for additional programs) is hidden/shown using the principle shown in this guide.

    I hope this helps.

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    Answered by dudiack on May 02, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    Hi! I can't for the life of mine figure out how you made it that the conditions applied for the duplicated fields the same as they applied for the original! There are so many of them it took my hours to change them all and at the end of the day they didn't work. Can you please walk me through the steps with photos? Thanks so much.

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    Answered by EliezerN on May 02, 2014 at 11:56 AM

    Hi,

    Of course, here are the steps I followed the last time I duplicated the fields and conditions for you:

    1. First duplicate one more field "Sell another program?" and place it at the end of the current last set of fields. Watch this video to know how to do it:

    https://shots.jotform.com/eliezer/newscreens/Sell_another_program_field_01.swf

    2. Then, duplicate all your fields you need using Manage Multiple Fields Feuture. Select all your and after clicking on Duplicate button place them after the new check box field "Sell Another progam". Select the fields starting with the Form Collpase "Part Two"

    3.Then, label the new form collapse as "PART THREE". Watch the video of these two steps:

    https://shots.jotform.com/eliezer/newscreens/duplicating_all_fields_01.swf

    4. Then, before duplicating the conditions add numbers to your Text HTML fields to diferentiate them and not get confused with them. Add numbers to the Text fields of Part Two and Part Three:

    5. After adding numbers to the Text fields of Part two and three let's proceed to duplicate the conditions.

    A- Go to the Conditions Wizard to the Saved Conditions and start to duplicate them from the first at the top.

    B- Then, make sure to find the duplicated one, you can use the Search function of your browser for this purpose I use Chrome so I hit the keys Crtl + F to enable the search box, and once you find it Edit it by changing the current fields by the new ones.

    So that the duplicated conditions are not longer applied to the fields of Part Two but to the ones in Part Three.

    Here is the video:

    https://shots.jotform.com/eliezer/newscreens/assigning_new_fields_to_the_duplicated_conditions.swf

    Then you have to follow the same process with the rest of the conditions and fields. This might result a bit complicated since those are a lot of fields and conditions, so if you find troubles across the way feel free to let me know and I will do my best to help you to resolve the problem.

    Thanks

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    Answered by EliezerN on May 02, 2014 at 12:08 PM

    In addition and as a bit different topic, upon checking your form carefully I found that you have some fields asking for Username, Password, Credit Card information, which is not allowed in Jotform as that is sensitive information that people have to provide.

    It's my responsability to warn you about this and to let you know that your account and forms may get disabled/suspended due to this action. It is against our Terms of use. You can find it in the Phishing section of our Terms of use page: http://www.jotform.com/terms/

    Our forms are subject to review processes which determine if the form makes legal action or not, if they are found to make illegal actions, then they are suspended immediatly.

    To avoid that, you will need to remove those fields that request sensitive information like "Username, passwords of bank/online services accounts, Credit cards", otherwise you will be suspended by our sysetem.

    If you have questions about this, kindly open a new thread and post your query there making reference to this thread.

    Thanks for your understanding and cooperation.