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    Widget for Sequential Bar Coding

    Asked by Edward4139 on January 06, 2012 at 03:34 PM

    I know the sequential numbering box works, can that mechanism be reproduced but instead of giving a human readable number, it generates a bar bar of that same sequential number? That makes it a step away from realy easily keeping records and in particualr picking lists and maybe invoices without any errors.

    Thanks

    Edward

    bar coding qr code
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    Answered by liyam on January 07, 2012 at 06:03 AM

    Hello Edward.  I'm not sure I understand what you're pointing in to.  Are you looking for a way how to generate bar codes within JotForm's features?

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    Answered by Edward4139 on January 07, 2012 at 07:30 PM

    Hi, thanks for replying, I hope this makes it clearer.

    Jotforms has a great little box that generates sequential numbers for forms. Bar codes are essentially numbers expressed in a different font. eg bar code add-in fonts for excel. Obviuosly there are several different bar code formats. However IF jotforms could maybe change the "font for a UPC (a) bar code instead of arial, you might get a sequential bar code. OR maybe somethign else to generate a sequential bar code.

    That would be a magic additon for forms, tracking, stock control invoicing, storage, inventory etc. I am happy to help in anyway I can, maybe a beta tester etc. Any ideas?

    Thanks.

    Edward

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    Answered by abajan on January 07, 2012 at 08:51 PM

    If I understand the question correctly, you would like users of a form to be able to enter digits into a sequential number box (or even just a regular text box that has "numeric only" validation) and on submission, have the barcode version of the number shown both in the submission records of the form and in its email alerts (notifications and/or auto-replies).

    That would be on the user's end. On your end, while constructing or editing the form in the JotForm form builder, if you click a sequential number field, one of tools available should be labelled "Barcode" and allow you to (1) choose if a barcode or QR code should be generated on submission of the form and if so, (2) the type of barcode or QR code that should be generated. So, in a general sense, you would like something like the form on this page. (Incidentally, tests I ran on there worked perfectly - at least for UPC-A codes: The numbers from the codes on a couple of product labels [less their checksum digits] were individually entered into the text box and the bars generated were identical to those on the labels.)

    Am I "on the right track" in understanding the feature you would like implemented?

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    Answered by Edward on January 11, 2012 at 09:57 AM

    Hi Again, thanks for your hard work. Yes is the answer. We want each form or item/product to show possibly two or three things.

    1. A sequentail human reeadable number alongside a bar code the type of which if possible could be chosen when setting up the form. That way each form has an indiviual number and therefore an individual bar code. Easy for filing and fulfilment.

    2. maybe a product has a certain human readable number which we can manually input and then as above a bar code of choice is generated, again great for fulfillment of orders.

    3. conversely for the products maybe to scan using a bar code scanner as the input device for the form, to scan a products bar code and then alongside it generates a human readable number.

    The above would be magic if possible.

    Thanks

    Edward 

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    Answered by fxr on January 13, 2012 at 12:39 PM

    Hello Edward, 

    We have gave you ideas some thought and agree they are not without merit, unfortunately, the problem is that implementing something like this would involve considerable work by our developers and we just dont have enough users requesting features like you have outlined to make that work a worthwhile endeavour. 

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    I have however, done a little research on the subject and have found a Prototype (the same javascript framework that JotForm uses) plugin that generates barcodes from numbers. 

    http://barcode-coder.com/en/barcode-prototype-plugin-202.html

    Now, it may well be possible to use this plugin to generate barcodes from the 'Unique ID' tool that JotForm provides. 

    The problem with this potential solution is that, it would involve downloading entire form source code and uploading it on your website. 

    If you want to pursue this idea, we may be able to provide you with the javascript required to make this plugin generate those barcodes from the Unique ID fields.

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    Answered by fxr on January 13, 2012 at 02:16 PM

    OK,

    I have had a closer look into this potential workaround.

    Generating barcodes from numbers with javascript is relatively easy, the problem lies in retrieving the Unique ID on the form itself. It appears the unique ID is stored server side, so can only be accessed via POST variables. This means the only to we generate unique barcodes for each form is to use a Custom URL as a 'thankyou page' after the form has been submitted. 

    There is also no way (that I can think off) to include email notification with the barcode included. 

    Really type of functionality being sought here is getting into a rather specialised area.

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    Answered by markashton on September 08, 2012 at 09:50 AM

    Hi,

    Let's say you run exhibitions ... and use one of Jotform's 116 registration templates.

    Attendees receive a confirmation email of registration.

    They can either print this out or show it on their smartphone on arrival.

    For any significant event ... the email needs to have a barcode that can be scanned by organisers.

    The reality of events is that attendees all turn up at once and if you have to check the email to a list .. etc then you've got one dog-slow process and some big queues.

    So, I think the "barcode in the email" thing is vital ... although specialised in a sense ... it is the most practical value-add that a registration form can have.

    The current registration forms are most respectfully ... just not very useful in terms of  exhibition registration. Have you actually used them in the field? 

    Real power to the jotform user will come from the 'attention to detail' given to the post-submission requirement of which a scannable barcode is "the killer".

    A nice email just doesn't cut it. Hope this helps.

    Thanks, Regards Mark

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    Answered by markashton on September 08, 2012 at 09:53 AM

    Hi,

    Let's say you run exhibitions ... and use one of Jotform's 116 registration templates.

    Attendees receive a confirmation email of registration.

    They can either print this out or show it on their smartphone on arrival.

    For any significant event ... the email needs to have a barcode that can be scanned by organisers.

    The reality of events is that attendees all turn up at once and if you have to check the email to a list .. etc then you've got one dog-slow process and some big queues.

    So, I think the "barcode in the email" thing is vital ... although specialised in a sense ... it is the most practical value-add that a registration form can have.

    The current registration forms are most respectfully ... just not very useful in terms of  exhibition registration. Have you actually used them in the field? 

    Real power to the jotform user will come from the 'attention to detail' given to the post-submission requirement of which a scannable barcode is "the killer".

    A nice email just doesn't cut it.

    Does this actually work as a solution to that ... 

    http://www.jotform.com/answers/66546-Sequential-Bar-Coding

    Thanks, Regards Mark

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    Answered by jonathan on September 08, 2012 at 12:07 PM

    @Mark

    Hi, as fxr previously stated, I also tend to agree with his suggestion that it can be done instead on 'another page' using the post submission variable and redirect to the page where the barcode can be printed or scanned.

    Putting it within the email may suggest complications as each users tend to have different kind of email client or platforms (some maybe using text only, or different versions of html).

    But if you put it on a 'single' html page, the service provider/owner/you can dictate only one means for the user/customer to get access to that barcode and this will eliminate the complexity of the application access. An html link to get to the barcode can instead be included in the submission email to redirect the users to the barcode source.

    I found this article on the internet. It samples how it was achieved creating a barcode (Code 39) on an HTML page.

    Although I do not know how to do it in JotForm, but in theory, I think a similar concept can be achieved. Barcodes are actually simple text using a different font display.

    So, if you can find way to display a dynamically generated text from a form submissions into an html page as a scannable barcode output, then that should be it.

    Hope I contributed on the discussion in a positive manner.

    Thanks.

     

     

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    Answered by District1010 on April 01, 2014 at 12:14 PM

    Has this been resolved with time? 

    Is there now a Widget in the JotForm toolbox that will place a sequentially numbered barcode on the confirmation email, alongside what was the Ticket No?

    As described above we run an event each year that people book online to both attend and pay. To have the person attending, on arrival, display a barcode, either printed or on their iPhone would be magic.

     

    Apologies I have since submitted this as a separate question

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    Answered by markashton on April 01, 2014 at 12:28 PM

    Forget it mate.

    I have tonnes of outstanding suggestions and bugs. months go by without a single one attended to.

    My suggestions are either the worst ever ... or the implementation of customer suggestions is a broken process.

    A widget would be great ... but my experience of widgets is that they don't work properly.

    I tried a few ... told jotform they weren't working ... end of !! 

    For example ... try the Transloadit widget .... useless

    Thanks Mark

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    Answered by District1010 on April 01, 2014 at 12:47 PM

    #Mark

    I suspect that I will share your frustration, on the plus side the 'calculation' widget really is good (pun intended). I have moved backwards and forwards together with AdobeFormsCentral over the years but JotForm is currently the best by a country mile! Just need the ability to generate a sequential bar code on the confirmation email... for the moment.

    Peter

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    Answered by markashton on April 01, 2014 at 01:54 PM

    True ... Jotform is the best ... I've looked at them all ... you will nail this I suspect ... wait for a response from support ... you should be able to achieve this

    mark

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    Answered by Mike_T on April 01, 2014 at 03:47 PM

    @District1010,

    At this time we can automatically generate unique QR code based on a form data, and show it on the form Autoresponder and/or form Thank You Page.

    It is quite easy to implement, just add the following QR image generation code to the source of the email and/or form thank you page:

    <img src="https://chart.googleapis.com/chart?chs=150x150&cht=qr&chl={id}&choe=UTF-8" alt="Your unique QR code" width="150" height="150" />

    Where {id} is illustrating the unique Submission ID. Please see my answer in this thread to get more details on this QR code solution.

    Also, it seems to be a good idea to have a Widget for Bar and QR coding, so we have attached a feature request ticket to this thread.

    Thank you.

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    Answered by District1010 on April 02, 2014 at 09:14 AM

    @Mike_T

    Many thanks for this, I'm fairly sure it will answer the immediate need and I look forward to seeing a Widget in due course. I need to explore the reading of QR Codes now, bar codes are simple we have bar coders with software to do the job readily available not so sure about QR codes, any thoughts?

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    Answered by ashwin_d on April 02, 2014 at 09:57 AM

    Hello District1010,

    I did a quick search and found that any smartphone can be used to read the QR code. You just need to install the QR reader application and most of them are free to download / use.

    You may like to check the wikipedia page:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_code

    Hope this helps.

    Thank you!

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    Answered by District1010 on April 02, 2014 at 11:10 AM

    @Ashwin and indeed @Mike_T

    Thanks but... I am OK with reading QR Codes from iPhones and the like but we need to be able to confirm that the person has both booked and paid for tickets to our event.

    So, we need to check against our records (form submissiions)

    If it were a Bar Code this would be easy as most bar code scanners come with simple software perfectly adequate for such a task.

    So the question is anyone aware of a QR Code scanner with that ability?  Even better if there was a JotForm Widget to give that interaction with the iPhone?

    Perhaps the answer to this is simply how much information can we pass to the QR Code before it is generated by Jotform?

    If we could have total number of people booked, and their names, what evening booked and how much they paid that would be good for starters?

    This becoming a lesson to myself as we progress - the answer, of course, is here

    http://www.jotform.com/answers/13787-QR-Code

    My danger now is trying to find this thread when the time frees up to give me a chance to explore - I wonder if this is worthy of being promoted within the system?  To my mind this is really very important and I suspect that most of the support team have missed the significance of it? Not my friend Mike_T though.

    Cheers

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    Answered by TitusN on April 02, 2014 at 01:24 PM

    Hello @District1010,

    You will be notified via this thread on deliberation on the ticket.

    In the meantime - why not open a new thread and let us know what information you want to pass to the QR code?

    There are definately some wokarounds that can be implemented to meet your requirements in the meanwhile.

    For instance, Try scanning this QR Image